You have written me an email that under normal circumstances I would have pitched due to the extreme volume of mail I read each day, most of which I paid to read and end up pitching anyways. However, your query has elicited a response, so count yourself as one of the lucky ones. Also, I withhold the right to print your email (albeit without identifying marks such as mail headers, email address and names) to my webpage for possible entertainment value.

So you want to know what DefCon is all about. You asked for it hun, you're going to get it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carrie xxxxx" <xxxxxxx@hotmail.com>
To: <froggy@thegeekempire.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:46 AM
Subject: Defcon 11

> Hi :)
> My name is Carrie and I'm a 22 yr, old female in Virginia. I was doing a
> search on Defcon 11 pictures (vegas 2003) when I came across yours.

So did you like them? Were they good pictures? I think so as do many others. I enjoyed taking them and hope you enjoyed seeing them.

I also realize this may be a cheap attempt to socially engineer me, but, hell, I'm the sporting type.

> I was searching for pictures because I would like to know what some of the
> girls are like that attend Defcon.

I think they're pretty good. Hell, I'm married to one of them. Does that count?

> Here's the story: My boyfriend (now ex-boyfriend) was sent to Defcon 11 for
> work on last minute notice.

Good for him. Having your employer pay is the only way to fly. I have for a number of years now and have brought back to my job a lot of great information, talks and contacts that I could have found nowhere else in the world for the price.

> When him and I were together, I was the jealous type.

Strike 1! Why were you together in the first place?

> The entire time he was there, I worried about what he might have been
> doing or girls that were there that he was looking at.

And why would you be worried? Honestly... it's a veritable sausage fest for Chrissakes... unless you're worried about him perhaps swinging the other way as well. Not that I care.

> My main curiousity is what the girls were like at daytime events when the
> seminars were going on.

Believe it or not, some of them actually know stuff about computers and actually attended the talks too! *shudder*. Indeed. Between talks some would hit the pool to cool off (It really is hot there in Vegas). A lot of the time they would simply scene-whore and sit around doing nothing with their friends. Hell, come to think of it, *I* would sit around some of the time doing nothing with my friends.

> I know my boyfriend stood in long lines waiting to
> get into some of these seminars...

If he was smart he would have seen some of them from the comfort of his hotel room. I did.

> I am pretty certain that at night he didn't go out..

Uh... heh... why wouldn't he? If he didn't he probably didn't as good of a time as he rightfully should have.

> I was on the phone with him most of the time from his hotel room... so,
> I'm not worried about him having attended the pool party, ball,
> or jeopardy...

Shit. He missed most of the fun then. I went to B&W ball, had a blast. No hanky panky ensued that I could see, mostly just people going out and having FUN. As for Hacker Jeopardy. Puhleeaze. Huge sausagefest, albeit a fun one. As to pool parties, you should have seen the one I threw two or three years ago that included a local stripper, her boyfriend, plastic bottles FILLED with alcohol, an improvised football pool game, some weird foreign dude who was hitting on my fiance and, to top it off, 151 shots from this Bobcat guy... you don't know him, though. Mmm... my hands on that strippers ass.. divine. My now wife was amused.

> HOWEVER, there was 1 night when he had to stay until 10 pm...
> he said there were important seminars going on.

Strike 2! I'd have to look at my schedule. You seem a little overbearing to me. Cracked the whip much, did you?

> I still wonder about that
> one.... also, did the strip part of Jeopardy go on during the day??????????

The "stripping" portion of hacker jeopardy was a joke and the strippers were probably almost as old as my mother. *cringe*. Everyone knew that, though. that was part of the joke.

> Were there lots of girls in the pool during the day time? I know he was out
> by the pool alot, but he said there was nobody in it.

There were a lot of girls and I was hitting on them. It was a damn shame he didn't drag you along, or I may have mad a subtle but polite pass at you, as well.

> I just really want to hear the truth about what really goes on at DEFCON.

The truth is that it's a great conference with talks by intelligent people about a wide range of interesting and timely topics. It also happens to be a total and complete bacchanalia, the likes of which is unseen by most mortals. The going phrase is, "No one knows what Defcon really is, you have to experience it for yourself."

If you really want to know what's it's like, hit me up and my crew will give you crash space in our room this year and, if you're good, try to cover your travel fare.

> My boyfriend said that there were slutty girls there during the day,

Uh... yeah... except for my wife and the women in my crew/

> but not to worry about them cuz they were all pudgy gothic freaks.

Which is why I'm glad I had the pasty geek chicks... mmmmm. ;)

> And, he said that he really didn't see any girls at all.

Dear, it's a computer convention... you honestly didn't expect many girls to be there, did you? :)

> Is this possible???

Yes.

> Cuz, I've read up on Defcon on the internet and some of the websites only talk about
> the pretty girls that attend!

Obviously it was written by someone with a one track mind. Yes there are scenewhores, but it gives the real girl geeks a bad reputation. I dare say it's sexist. Did you ever stop to consider for one second how much man meat is there? Hmmmm? Making that offer for crash space and reduced fare tempting now, eh? Some of my friends happen to be pretty darn cute you know... and single!

> What was it really like during the day???

Strike 3! Repetiton of the same general question!

I think we covered this... talks, pool, hanging out. If you got sick of the AP, you headed over to the strip... over went sight-seeing, I mean, it is Vegas afterall.

> At rhe seminars, and standing in line?

Yes, some of the seminars were packed with hot, greasy, sweaty, smelly geeks, most of whom were male. One of them probably happened to be your ex.

> Were there stripper girls at every seminar??

Hell no. If there were I must have missed them. :(

> PLEASE!!! I'M IN NEED HERE!

And what, pray tell, are those needs of yours again? ;)

> THANKS :)
> Carrie

Any time, shnookums.

- Froggy